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  1. 69magpie

    69magpie Mischievous Magpie

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    A thousand miles long with a big door in the middle.

    We will build it but we'll get the Mexican government to pay for it..... I have great respect for the Mexican people, however they can be sneaky.....

    Seriously Donald, give up the thought of being the Pres. and try your hand at stand up comedy.
     
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  3. Sanity_is_Relative

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    Most of the area that he wants the wall is so rugged and mountainous that it would never be possible, then there are Native tribal lands in the way that make up part of the border that the US cannot touch no matter what. Why not save the money and start enforcing employment laws? Take away the jobs, housing, education, and health care and they will stay where they are. Stop wasting massive amounts of money targeting the individual and go after those who aid them, the left over money could be used to fix what is wrong here.
     
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  4. anon_de_plume

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    Don't just take away the jobs, punish the employers for giving them jobs. They know they are encouraging the immigrants to come here because they know they can get jobs here.

    At the same time, politicians don't really want to solve this issue because it is used as a wedge issue come election time. How many presidents have talked about fixing the problem during their first campaigns?
     
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  5. Sanity_is_Relative

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    I advocate fines of $10,000 for the first violation and $25,000 for a second occurrence, if it repeats as a third shut them down and sell it off to a small investor that wants to keep the company in tact.
    It is hard enough for small farms and manufacturing companies to get a start so take what would be a dead weight and sell it cheaply to people that want to grow it the right way. Jail the people who do the hiring, and if needed cut all funding that benefits illegals in any manner. Life saving medical services only and then deport them.
     
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  6. ace's n 8's

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    A politician must have told you that it ''just can't be done'', well sport, it can be done.

    This is also something that can be done, should be done, and it will be just as effective.

    A border wall wont stop illegals, but it can be built, should be built.

    What is it that you propose should be done about the illegals that dont come here for jobs, rather they sneak in for criminal activities?
     
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  7. Distant Lover

    Distant Lover Master of Facts

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    I agree that we should punish those who employ illegal immigrants. I do not feel any hostility toward the illegals at all. Most are decent, hard working people who are doing the best they can. My hostility is directed toward the American employers who would rather hire illegals at slave wages than hire American citizens at decent wages.

    As far as wedge issues go, in his book What's the Matter with Kansas? How Conservatives Won the Heart of America Thomas Frank wrote that Republicans love to lose on social issues. These are the issues that anger lower income whites, and cause them to vote against their economic interests by voting Republican.

    The leaders of the GOP do not really care about the Ten Commandments in court rooms. They want more immigrants so that they can lower wages and raise prices.
     
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  8. Sanity_is_Relative

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    I lived all along the border and I know first hand that it cannot be done due to geographic limitations. So stop the idiocy before it costs the taxpayers billions that would be spent in vain.
    And for those that you claim that only come to become criminals, those numbers are based on the illegal drug trade and the war on drugs. You know that failed Nixon policy that to date has cost just over 1trillion dollars? Why add another 50 billion to that cost? It will not do anything that a few well placed officers and sensible drug laws could do? It is a failure just in policy based on the admission that you made that it would not even stop them. If there was nothing here for them they would not come, if they could not get rich selling their dope here they would not come, if they have a formal gang and come here they are declaring war.
     
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      Oh, a wall could be built. Not by this government, but it could be built.
      It should not be built.
      I for one refuse to huddle behind a fence hoping it will stand.
      I would much prefer to just take back my neighborhood.
       
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  9. Sanity_is_Relative

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    I lived all along the border and I know first hand that it cannot be done due to geographic limitations. So stop the idiocy before it costs the taxpayers billions that would be spent in vain.
    And for those that you claim that only come to become criminals, those numbers are based on the illegal drug trade and the war on drugs. You know that failed Nixon policy that to date has cost just over 1trillion dollars? Why add another 50 billion to that cost? It will not do anything that a few well placed officers and sensible drug laws could do? It is a failure just in policy based on the admission that you made that it would not even stop them. If there was nothing here for them they would not come, if they could not get rich selling their dope here they would not come, if they have a formal gang and come here they are declaring war.
     
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  10. ace's n 8's

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    I dont care where you have lived, I dont care where you live now, a wall can be built, this country has the technology.

    Are you claiming that ALL illegals come here, are coming to better themselves by 'working'?

    This country has no idea who is in this nation, they have no idea whatsoever.
     
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  11. Sanity_is_Relative

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    Do you know how to read n English? Should i write in Spanish? Or would you prefer I do so in your native tongue, IDIOT?
    OK Idiot it is.
    WE CANNOT AFFORD IT ASSHOLE.
     
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  12. CS natureboy

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    I bet someone told the Chinese the same thing 2200 years ago......:meh:
     
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  13. Sanity_is_Relative

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    You do know that the Great Wall was not to deflect immigrants? But I do have to ask which China wall are you referring to? There are 2.
     
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  14. ace's n 8's

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    Because you said we can't afford it, we must not be able to afford it.

    We can afford it, we can build it, this is one reason the federal fucking government even exists. . . NATIONAL SECURITY.

    Not to give out food stamps, not to give out cellphones, not to give out ''FREE'' healthcare, but . .National Security, is the responsibility of the federal fucking government.
     
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  15. CS natureboy

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    Who said anything about a door???
     
    1. 69magpie
      Donnie, look at this vid from one minute in....
       
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    2. CS natureboy
      Yeah, "Donnie" did say he wanted a door in the middle. It wouldn't be that much of a problem, as long as there was a BIG LOCK on that door....;)
       
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      In order to agree with Donald Trump one has to desperately want to. He has given no reason to believe that the Mexican government will pay for the wall.

      He continues to promote the Republican fantasy that cutting taxes will balance the budget. It did not work for President Reagan. It did not work for President Bush. It will not work for President Trump.
       
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      Yeah DL, and all the Democrats promote a pig in a poke fantasy while working hard trying to destroy the middle class...
       
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  16. ace's n 8's

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    An irrelevant deflection, on your part.
     
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  17. ace's n 8's

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    A door?, what fucking door?, I wouldn't mind adding about 7200 volts to the top of the wall
     
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  18. Sanity_is_Relative

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    Ok so we cut military budgets to afford the cost? Aren't you the same one that complains about the National Debt?
     
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      You need to pay attention.
      Mexico will pay for the wall
       
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      Why do you think Mexico will pay for the Wall? Has the Mexican government said anything about it yet?
       
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  19. CS natureboy

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    It was built to keep people from entering China illegally, killing people and committing crimes.....

    It was designed to protect Chinese citizens against the raids and invasions of the various nomadic groups of the Eurasian Steppe.....

    What do you think it was for?????????????
     
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  20. ace's n 8's

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    Damn you have got the answers today, quick to cut military.

    We can build a wall, while cutting the fraud and waste accumulated from giving free shit to the illegals.
     
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